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  11-5-17 Warwick Protest Photos

  by thebrokenkite in

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  2. experiences

  let the reader use discernment:.

  i was disfellowshipped in june of last year.

  while i've been awake for nearly a year, i still often feel groggy.

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  The Fall Guy

  For me, Brokenkite's most profound and factual statement (with one disagreement) was this - And instead of targeting a J.W. audience, which is mostly futile, I think a well-balanced, factual, and emotional approach to a secular audience would put more pressure on Watchtower.

  Bethelites will most likely be in one of two camps - either they will be totally in awe of their golden calf - the WTBTS, or they have come to realise that their choice of servitude to the org has resulted in their social, familial, and mental imprisonment. Neither party's hearts or minds will be reached by such a method. It's like the J.W. claim that trolley-zombieism is giving "a great witness."

  Mostly futile? I'd say totally.
  
  
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  In theory, can one be disfellowshipped for attempted suicide?

  by Saename in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was recently reading the reasons for disfellowshipping as listed in shepherd the flock of god.

  the handbook is available online here: https://thetruthofjehowaswittness.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/jehovas-vitner.pdf.. on page 59, point #4, it lists attempted suicide as a reason for disfellowshipping.

  has it ever been removed?

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  The Fall Guy

  I was recently informed that a brother has been disfellowshipped for slander because he'd rightfully accused his wife (elder's daughter) of adultery.

  The wolves will justify the motive between themselves, and then rip to pieces their victim.
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  A Thought For Today

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  something for all to consider - but especially j.w.

  's who will be willing to, or have already "stoned to death" a loved one who did not agree with the teachings of the wtbts.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gudiqwxps5e.

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  The Fall Guy

  Something for all to consider - but especially J.W.'s who will be willing to, or have already "stoned to death" a loved one who did not agree with the teachings of the WTBTS.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUdiQWxps5E
  
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  October 31, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: New Visitor Exhibit at Bethel (UK)

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 31, 2017 to all congregations re: new visitor exhibit at bethel.

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  The Fall Guy

  At 3 minutes in the video we're informed, "At the heart of the site [new UK Branch] will be the printery." Oops!!!! Looks like the great expansion contraction is continuing. Absolutely wonderful newsl!
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  A Little Direction Please

  by Brian J in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.

  i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.

  i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".

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  The Fall Guy

  A very big welcome Brian J.

  Learning from others who have already travelled the road you are now on will be of the utmost help to you. You are now an "apostate"of the WTBTS - not of Christianity. Feel good about it. Each person can only give you advice from their personal perspective and how it impacted on their family members.

  The sooner you resign as an Elder "for personal & private reasons" the better. Under no circumstances give any reasons to anyone - especially your wife! This will get the ball rolling, and people's towards you will noticeably change. Once you do so, your wife will start to see the conditional love and friendship disappear from some/many and her eyes and mind will very quickly discern things she'd never noticed or considered before. She will then want to discuss topics which are taboo at the moment. That will be your cue to help your wife and family fade together. This is exactly how it has worked out for one of my family who was an elder. His zealous JW wife has now seen The Truth About The Truth. (TTATT)

  You have a P.M.
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  October 31, 2017 TO SELECTED BOEs IN THE US BRANCH TERRITORY Re: Discontinuation of the Funds-on-Deposit Arrangement

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 31, 2017 to selected bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: discontinuation of the funds-on-deposit arrangement.

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  The Fall Guy

  Thanks again for your contributions WiFi.

  The letter says, "If there are excess funds, the elders may decide to recommend that the congregation(s) pass a resolution to donate the excess funds to Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall construction worldwide."

  Is there such a named and specific fund for "Kingdom Hall & Assembly Hall Construction"? (KH & AHC)

  I distinctly remember the org's 4 page money-grabbing letter mentioned KH & AHC more than 20 times, but then said that the org would use the money for whatever it desired. The blood-sucking WTBTS continues to suck.
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  If Elders and Ministerial Servants did what Michael Fallon has done, few would remain

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  over the years i have seen plenty of elders and ministerial servants touch other j.w's knees, thighs, give very long and intimate hugs, blah, blah, blah.

  i know of other sisters who have felt really uncomfortable with such behaviour, but the brothers have just explained that they're being loving as caring christian friends, so they get away with it.

  it angers me that no j.w's will speak out about historic or ongoing inappropriate touching for fear of being disfellowshipped or losing the hope of paradise..

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  The Fall Guy

  I have strong suspicions that the Michael Fallon knee-touching incident could be the catalyst for more serious allegations about him to surface. The knee-touching now appears to have been watered-down by the media.

  According to BBC reports up until last night, he touched the journalist's knee just "once". However, the BBC News this morning is now using the word "repeatedly," and judging by Mr. Fallon's resignation speech in which he said "A number of allegations have surfaced about MPs in recent days, including some [not just one] about my previous conduct. Many of these have been false [not all] but I accept that in the past I have fallen below the high standards..."

  It looks like he may have quickly jumped before he was pushed.
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  Organizational Accomplishments - Expanded Video Production Facilities at Patterson

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnzlcngtf-8.

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  The Fall Guy

  The JW Audio-Visual chariot speeds up ever quicker. Invest more in the televisual content and continue to reduce the material publications. In 25 years time, many J.W.'s will have sight disorders, thanks to staring at iPads night and day. (Other tablets are available)
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  Asking for help with wife

  by Are you serious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello everyone, my wife wants nothing to do with my awakening.

  every time i try explaining something she tells me she doesn't want to hear it.

  i believe she's afraid of learning something she's not ready for.

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  The Fall Guy

  Most J.W.'s stomachs will instantly churn and their brains will shut down the moment they are confronted with anything which exposes an org teaching/practice as being corrupt - even if the proof is right in front of them.

  Go easy on her and invite her to share her opinion on topics like the org's 2 witness rule for paedophiles, or why the unscriptural practice of confessing to 3 elders is compulsory, but Catholics confessing to 1 priest is wrong.
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  Hellaby UK circuit A$$emb£y this Sunday

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my spies tell me that the attendance for hellaby this last sunday was only 600.. that's all i know.

  i imagine some on here have perhaps some more insights into why.

  however, it seems rather low, don't you think?.

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  The Fall Guy

  The East Pennines Assembly Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses - colloquially referred to as "Hellaby."

  I was reliably informed that the org originally bought much more of the (derelict) land for the Assembly Hall than was needed

  and subsequently sold the excess real estate for a considerable profit. That area then became a hub for numerous businesses.

  https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/East+Pennine+Assembly+Hall,+Fretwell+Rd,+Bramley,+Rotherham+S66+8LU/@53.424271,-1.237659,188m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x48797526ff3b240b:0x7d08e3b749efa01c!8m2!3d53.4242947!4d-1.237136